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Who Killed JFK?

 

 (Excerpted from Chapter 9: The Texas Oil Mafia: Big Oil & Their Bankers…)

 

by Dean Henderson

 

Texaco insider Clint Murchison had meat packing interests in Haiti which were looked after by CIA agent George de Mohrenschildt, a wealthy Russian oilman and, according to the FBI, a Nazi spy during WWII.  It was de Mohrenschildt who drove Lee Harvey Oswald from New Orleans to Dallas days before the November 22, 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy. 

Gaeton Fonzi, a special investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations, was on his way to interview de Mohrenschildt in Florida regarding his role in the JFK hit when the CIA agent was found with a shotgun blast through his head.  De Mohrenschildt’s diaries were later uncovered.  One entry read, “Bush, George H. W. (Poppy), 1412 W Ohio also Zapata Petroleum Midland”. [374]

Kennedy had done plenty to piss off the US military establishment.  In October 1963 he pulled 1,000 advisers out of Southeast Asia and issued NSAM 363 – a blueprint for a total Vietnam withdrawal.  He sent US Ambassador to Guinea William Atwood to Cuba to begin talks with Fidel Castro, after publicly blasting the CIA’s bungling of the Bay of Pigs operation.  Kennedy said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds” and that he understood Castro‘s revolutionary struggle against dictator and Meyer Lansky crony Fulgencio Batista, who Kennedy called, “an incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the US”. [375]

Ted Shackley, Santos Trafficante and the CIA boys running Operation Mongoose – which aimed to assassinate Castro – were especially outraged at Kennedy.  Major General Edward Lansdale had commandeered Operation Mongoose and escalated it into a small war against Cuba.  In 1965 Lansdale helped Lucien Conein set up the South Vietnamese Opium Monopoly under President Nguyen Cao Ky.  The CIA continued to train anti-Castro rebels in south Florida and around Lake Pontchartrain outside New Orleans, even after JFK had the FBI raid the camps.

Kennedy fired CIA Director and Rockefeller cousin Allen Dulles, CIA Deputy Director Charles Cabell (whose brother was the mayor of Dallas) and CIA Deputy Director of Plans Richard Bissell.  Richard Helms was Bissell’s successor at the Company’s dirty tricks bureau, as the Plans section was known.  Helms was tight with James “Jesus” Angleton, who ran the CIA’s MK-ULTRA mind control program for years, utilizing techniques Dulles obtained in Switzerland from the House of Saud Muslim Brotherhood.

All the Watergate plumbers came from an Operation Mongoose offshoot known as Operation 40.  Plumber Howard Hunt was paymaster for Operation 40, which also included plumbers Bernard Barker and Enterprise liaisonRafael Quintero.  Plumber Frank Sturgis ran the Miami-based International Anti-Communist Brigade, which was funded by Santos Trafficante through his Teamsters Local 320 front.  The other Watergate burglars were Felipe Diego and Rolando Martinez. They were buddies with OSS China hand William Pawley, who had owned sugar refineries in Cuba as well as the country’s bus line. [376]

Hunt ran the Miami based Double-Chek, a CIA channel during the Bay of Pigs.  Sturgis physically attacked Vietnam War opponent Daniel Ellsberg on the steps of the Capitol and recruited agent provocateursto disrupt peaceful protests at the 1972 Democratic Convention. [377]

Kennedy said he wanted to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds” and that he understood Castro‘s revolutionary struggle against dictator and Meyer Lansky crony Fulgencio Batista, who Kennedy called, “an incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the US”.

As part of Operation 40, Frank Sturgis recruited Marita Lorenz to seduce Castro, then kill him.  Miss Lorenz says she rode to Dallas in a vehicle loaded with weapons with Frank Sturgis, Jerry Patrick Hemming, two Cuban exile brothers named Novis and a pilot named Pedro Diaz Lanz.  Lorenz says they arrived in Dallas the day before Kennedy was shot, where they met Howard Hunt at a local hotel.

Fletcher Prouty was an Air Force intelligence officer who had been part of Kennedy’s fact-finding mission which resulted in the NSAM 263 directive calling for a US pullout of Vietnam.  On November 10, 1963 Prouty’s boss Edward Lansdale reassigned him to a South Pole desk job.  Twelve days later Kennedy was assassinated.  Prouty swears that a photograph of Dealey Plaza on the day of the assassination shows Edward Lansdale walking away from the scene of the crime. [378]

Others have identified Howard Hunt as one of the tramps who lurked on the railroad tracks behind the grassy knoll from where the fatal shot was fired.

George Bush Sr. headed Houston-based Zapata Offshore Petroleum from 1956-1964.  According to authors William Cooper and David Icke, in 1961 Zapata got the CIA into the Columbian cocaine business.  Zapata’s offshore oil platforms were used to transship cocaine, while the Four Horsemen shipped chemicals to Columbia necessary in the production of coke. [379]

One CIA operation to invade Cuba was code-named Operation Zapata.  Two Navy ships used in the attempt were named Barbara and Houston.

An FBI memo from J. Edgar Hoover dated 11-23-63 discusses briefing “George Bush of CIA” on the Kennedy assassination, which had occurred one day earlier.  Bush was in Dallas on November 22nd.  One intelligence source stated, “I know he (Bush) was involved in the Caribbean.  I know he was involved in the suppression of things after the Kennedy assassination”. [380]

In a 1973 interview published in the Atlantic Monthly, Kennedy Vice-President and successor Lyndon Johnson – himself a Texas oilman – hinted at a conspiracy on that gloomy day in Dallas and talked of a “Murder Incorporated” being run by the CIA out of the Caribbean.  Johnson was referring to Permindex (Permanent Industrial Exhibitions) – an assassination bureau run by the Special Operations Executive (SOE) of Britain’s MI6.

According to a book published by Executive Intelligence Review called Dope Inc.: The Book That Drove Kissinger Crazy, Permindex was funded by the Canadian Bronfman family and the wealthy Polish Solidarist Radziwill family.  Permindex leader, MI6 SOE Colonel Sir William “Intrepid” Stephenson, had earlier deployed the Meyer Lansky syndicate and helped rehabilitate Lucky Luciano.

SOE Colonel Louis Mortimer Bloomfield was an OSS veteran and Bronfman liaison who chaired Permindex since its 1958 founding in Montreal and Geneva.  SOE and Permindex insider General Julius Klein ran guns to the murderous Haganahwhen the Zionists seized Israel from the Palestinians.  He “handles” Buffalo mob boss Max Fischer and Carl Lindner at United Brands – whose banana boats, according to DEA, regularly ship cocaine to the US. [381]

Other SOE members included David Sarnoff, whose RCA conglomerate at that time formed the core of the US National Security Agency; and Walter Sheridan, who provided intelligence to Resorts International and fugitive financier Robert Vesco.  The most familiar member of SOE was Colonel Clay Shaw- whose son of the same name is a Florida Congressman serving on a House Narcotics Task force.

Shaw was an OSS veteran who later became Director of the New Orleans International Trade Mart – the US subsidiary of Permindex.  Shaw was indicted in 1969 for his role in the Kennedy assassination by New Orleans attorney Jim Garrison.  During the trial, 17 key prosecution witnesses died and Garrison became the target of a smear campaign.

Shaw served under Stephenson for twenty years starting in WWII, where he had been OSS liaisonto Winston Churchill.  SOE operatives infiltrated the FBI and formed Division Five, a British intelligence Fifth Column which was headed by Bloomfield.  Both Bloomfield and Shaw were present at a series of meetings in Montego Bay, Jamaica in 1963.  The meetings were held at the Tyndall Compound, built by Sir William Stephenson to serve British intelligence interests in the Caribbean after WWII.

Stephenson had launched BRINCO, an energy exploration firm financed by the Oppenheimer family’s Rio Tinto.  He moved to Jamaica in 1949 and set up the British-American-Canadian Corporation with financing from UK merchant banking giant Hambros.  It was Stephenson who helped Allen Dulles stash the Hitler and Goebell trusts in Swiss bank accounts after WWII.  Now he presided over the Montego Bay meetings where, according to many Kennedy assassination researchers, the JFK hit was planned.

Those present at the meetings included Ferenc Nagy, a WWII cabinet minister in the pro-Hitler Horthy government of Hungary, who later became Hungarian Prime Minister; Georgio Mantello, a Romanian emigrewho served as Italian dictator Benito Mussolini’s Trade Minister; Paul Raigoradsky, a Russian Solidarity leader; and Jean de Menil, an old money European aristocrat and Russian president of Schlumberger, the giant oil industry service provider and frequent CIA arms conduit based in Houma, LA. [382]

All present at Tyndall were executives of Permindex, whose board members included Roy Cohn, former general counsel to Sen. Joe McCarthy; Montreal crime boss Joe Bonnano; Mussolini Agriculture Minister Count Guitierez de Spadafora of the Italian House of Savoy; Hapsburg and Wittelsbach family banker Hans Seligman of Basel; Carlo d’Amelio, Rome attorney for the Houses of Savoy and Pallavicini; King Farouk of Egypt’s uncle Munir Chourbagi; and Guiseppe Zigiotti, head of the Italian Fascist Association for Militia Arms.  Permindex was a front for Nazi International.

Colonel Louis Bloomfield was a partner at Philips, Vineberg, Bloomfield & Goodman - attorneys for the Canadian Bronfman family.  In 1968 the firm was forced to delete Bloomfield’s name from its letterhead when French President Charles de Gaulle publicly exposed Bloomfield for his role in the assassination attempt on de Gaulle.

De Gaulle named Credit Suisse of Geneva as financier of Bloomfield’s attempted putschand traced its origin to NATO Headquarters in Brussels.  Permindex was forced to move out of Europe to fascist-friendly South Africa.  Simultaneously, de Gaulle kicked the Israeli Mossad out of France due to its cozy relations with Permindex.  Credit Suisse Canada has been identified by some researchers as SOE paymaster for the Permindex assassination of JFK, which was accomplished after Stephenson set up an operations command center in David Sarnoff’s RCA Building at New York’s Rockefeller Center.

In a 1973 interview published in the Atlantic Monthly, Kennedy Vice-President and successor Lyndon Johnson – himself a Texas oilman – hinted at a conspiracy on that gloomy day in Dallas and talked of a “Murder Incorporated” being run by the CIA out of the Caribbean.  Johnson was referring to Permindex (Permanent Industrial Exhibitions) – an assassination bureau run by the Special Operations Executive (SOE) of Britain’s MI6.

Bloomfield worked under the cover of Israeli Continental Corporation and the Canadian subsidiary of Heineken Breweries.  He controlled the Ran Histadrut “charity”, which constitutes 33% of Israel’s GNP; and Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s second largest bank and a favorite Mossad conduit.  Bloomfield was director of the Israeli-Canadian Maritime League and served as Canadian Consul-General in Liberia.

There he worked with the only other foreign diplomat in Monrovia – Banque du Credit Internacionale’s (BCI) Tibor Rosenbaum – in establishing Liberia’s status as an off-shore banking center and in making Liberia’s flag available to international shippers who wished to disguise their true country of origin.  The Liberian flag has been well utilized by drugs and arms smugglers.

Bloomfield was also chairman of the Red Cross Ambulance Service, a post traditionally held by the top Knight in Queen Elizabeth II’s modern-day roundtable – Most Venerable Military & Hospitalier Order of St. John of Jerusalem.  Though known for its more “charitable” side – which includes selling donated blood for around $100/pint – the Red Cross is officially an intelligence arm of the British monarchy. [383]

According to Dope Inc., Tibor Rosenbaum’s BCI was a key bank in the Permindex assassination of Kennedy, transferring funds from Bank Hapoalim to New Orleans FBI Division Five Station Chief Guy Bannister.  Bannister’s agent Jerry Brooks Gaitlin doled out the cash to Hunt and his Cuban team of assassins.  Both Bannister and Gaitlin died under mysterious circumstances.

Howard Hunt’s Double Chek was a subsidiary of Centro Mondiale Commerciale, the Permindex Rome branch.  William Seymour, the Oswald double who played Cuban sympathizer for months before the Kennedy hit, met with Clay Shaw and David Ferrie to form a triangulation of fire plan.  The actual Oswald was on SOE Division Five payroll.

According to many researchers, the weapons for the Kennedy coup came through Schlumberger and the seven-shooter hit team consisted of an elite group put together by J. Edgar Hoover and Sir William Stephenson in 1943.  The team was formed through the American Council of Christian Churches (ACCC), which Bloomfield, Stephenson and Hoover founded as cover for US and British intelligence viaACCC Latin American missions.

ACCC is a network of aristocratic far-right religions.  Its west coast director E. E. Bradley was indicted by New Orleans prosecutor Jim Garrison for his role in the JFK hit.  David Ferrie worked under ACCC cover.  An ACCC orphan school near Puebla, Mexico was used to train 25-30 of the world’s premier marksmen.  ACCC Minister Albert Osborne ran the school after he fled the US due to his support of Hitler during WWII.  These “students” carried out the Kennedy assassination.  Assassins from this same team may have deployed to kill both Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. [384]

Kennedy was scheduled to speak at the Dallas Trademart – a Permindex affiliate – the day he was gunned down.  After the Kennedy assassination Permindex morphed into Intertel, while BCI was replaced by Robert Vesco’s Bahamas-based Resorts International – whose lawyers included Paul Helliwell and Kennedy Justice Department hack Robert Peloquin, who served in Naval Intelligence and with NSA before joining Justice.

Resorts International has its headquarters on Paradise Island, which is owned by Huntington Hartford, scion of the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company.  Intertel is officially a subsidiary of Resorts and its board included Howard Hunt buddy Edward Mullin of FBI Division Five and president of the Bronfman family-controlled Royal Bank of Canada, David Belisle of NSA and Sir Randolph Bacon – former head of Scotland Yard.  Intertel provides security for Caribbean and Las Vegas casinos and moved gambling and horse racing into Atlantic City, New Jersey.

The Warren Commission which “investigated” the Kennedy assassination was stacked with the very cronies Kennedy had denounced.  Allen Dulles, the CIA Director whom Kennedy had fired, loomed large over the proceedings, steering the inquiry away from any hint of CIA involvement.  FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover was a right-wing fanatic who despised Kennedy.  President Gerald Ford, then a Michigan Representative, leaked information on the hearings to FBI Assistant Director Cartha De Loach. [385]  Senators Arlen Spector (D-PA) and Richard Shelby (R-AL) are prominent members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which oversees CIA activity.

But the most influential member of the Warren Commission was Chase Manhattan Bank chairman John McCloy, who later directed the World Bank.  McCloy was attorney for the Saudi-based ARAMCO and helped David Rockefeller spirit the Shah out of Iran.

Kennedy had angered the US military establishment but his death sentence was signed by the international bankers.

Kennedy had announced a crackdown on off-shore tax havens and proposed increases in tax rates on large oil and mining companies.  He supported eliminating tax loopholes which benefit the super-rich.  His economic policies were publicly attacked by Fortune magazine, the Wall Street Journaland both David and Nelson Rockefeller.  Kennedy’s own Treasury Secretary Douglas Dillon, who came from the Bechtel-controlled Dillon Read investment bank, voiced opposition to the JFK proposals. [386]

Kennedy’s fate was sealed in June 1963 when he authorized the issuance of more than $4 billion in United States Notes by his Treasury Department in an attempt to circumvent the high interest rate usury of the Eight Families Federal Reserve international banker crowd.  President Lincoln had made a similar move 100 years earlier and suffered the same consequences.

The wife of accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, who was conveniently gunned down by Jack Ruby before Ruby quickly died in prison, told author A. J. Weberman in 1994, “The answer to the Kennedy assassination is with the Federal Reserve Bank.  Don’t underestimate that.  It’s wrong to blame it on Angleton and the CIA per seonly.  This is only one finger on the same hand.  The people who supply the money are above the CIA”. [387]

Kennedy was scheduled to speak at the Dallas Trademart – a Permindex affiliate – the day he was gunned down.  After the Kennedy assassination Permindex morphed into Intertel, while BCI was replaced by Robert Vesco’s Bahamas-based Resorts International – whose lawyers included Paul Helliwell and Kennedy Justice Department hack Robert Peloquin, who served in Naval Intelligence and with NSA before joining Justice.

New Orleans Trade Mart Director and SOE operative Clay Shaw’s address book contained the names of many powerful people who may have “supplied the money”.  They included international oligarchs Maquesse Guiseppe Rey of Italy, Baron Rafaelo de Banfield of Italy, Princess Jaqueline Chimay of France, Lady Margaret D’Arcy of England, Lady Hulce of England and Sir Michael Duff of England. [388]

But perhaps the most interesting phone number in Shaw’s address book belonged to Sir Steven Runciman, an elite historian with insider knowledge of the Knights Templar and their Priory of Sion inner sanctum. 

Warren Commission Chairman Earl Warren, John McCloy, Allen Dulles, J. Edgar Hoover and Gerald Ford were all 33rd Degree Illuminized Freemasons.

Visitors to the Dealey Plaza assassination site report seeing an obelisk dedicated to Freemasonry.  Dallas – headquarters for illumination merchant Exxon Mobil and much of corporate America – sits on the 33rd parallel.


Dean Henderson is the author of four books: Big Oil & Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network, The Grateful Unrich: Revolution in 50 Countries, Stickin’ it to the Matrix and Das Kartell der Federal Reserve. To subscribe to Dean’s weekly blog, Left Hook, go to http://www.deanhenderson.wordpress.com


Footnotes:

[1] Plausible Denial: Was the CIA Involved in the Assassination of JFK?Mark Lane. Thunder’s Mouth Press. New York. 1991

[2] Ibid

[3] The Great Heroin Coup: Drugs, Intelligence and International Fascism. Henrik Kruger. South End Press. Boston. 1980. p.142

[4] Ibid. p.162

[5] Lane

[6] The Robot’s Rebellion: The Story of Spiritual Renaissance. David Icke. Gateway Books. Bath, U.K. 1994. p.217

[7] Lane

[8] Dope Inc.: The Book that Drove Kissinger Crazy. The Editors of Executive Intelligence Review. Washington, DC. 1992. p.417

[9] Ibid. p.445

[10] Ibid

[11] Ibid. p.469

[12] Ibid

[13] Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History that Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons and the Great Pyramids. Jim Marrs. HarperCollins Publishers. New York. 2000. p.129

[14] Ibid. p.131

[15] From JFK to Clinton: Zionist Influence on the American Media and History. Michael Collins Piper.


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I`m currently looking into the fact that the John Birch Society along with ex General Edwin Walker might of had a hand in the assassination.

*Gaeton Fonzi`s book "The Last Investigation" is a tremendous book about the going on behind the scenes in the HSCA investigation (It was almost as bad as the Warren Commission)
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Andy,

If you are ever bored,and don`t mind reading about the JFK assassination,please take a look at this thread on a forum that I belong to.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037
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The John Birch Society seems to have their hands in everything.

The investigations they did were a joke. Most of the public ate it right up!!!

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This is from jbs.com:

Formed by Robert Welch in December 1958, The John Birch Society takes its name from the legendary World War II Army Captain John Birch. The organization's overall goal, never altered in the 50-plus years of its existence, has always been to create sufficient understanding amongst the American people about both their country and its enemies, so that they could protect freedom and ensure continuation of the nation's independence.

Always an education and action organization, the Society has never deviated from its opposition to communism and any other form of totalitarianism, certainly including the steady drift toward total government currently arising from within our own shores. But the positive promise of what can be built in an atmosphere of freedom has always been more of a motivation for members than any negative fear of what must be opposed.

While the Society has always focused on combating -- or occasionally applauding -- actions taken by government, the organization was also built on a moral foundation. Its motto proclaims the long-range goal of "Less government, more responsibility, and – with God's help – a better world." How much "less" government? Officials point to the U.S. Constitution and claim that adherence to its many limitations on power would result in the federal government being 20 percent its size and 20 percent its cost.

As for "more responsibility," the Society insists that the Ten Commandments should guide all personal and organizational conduct. Agreeing with numerous pronouncements of our nation's Founders, Society members believe that national freedom cannot long endure without moral restraint.

Soon after its creation, enemies discovered the Society's potential to arouse and inform a generally sleeping population. At that point, there arose a totally unfair and withering smear campaign painting the organization and its members with an array of nasty and completely false charges, none of which ever had any validity. (LOL)

With a membership made up of Americans of all races, colors, creeds, and national origins, the Society is currently enjoying a surge in activity, a large growth in acceptance, and increased hope for a future marked by less government and more responsibility. It is that combination that surely will, with God's help, lead to the better world desired by all men and women of good will.


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I would like to back up on saying that ex General Walker might of been apart of the assassination,when what I should have said,was that he might of had a big hand in setting up Lee Harvey Oswald as the patsy.
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If you are ever bored,and don`t mind reading about the JFK assassination,please take a look at this thread on a forum that I belong to.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1037


Cool bro, thanks!!! I will check it out for sure. I wish their were more forums like that!!!
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Harry Dean is a current member of the Education Forum & as a FBI informant & CIA operative,penetrated the John Birch Society.You should read about what he has to say.A very curious,but very believable person.

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Harry J. Dean was born in Canada in 1927. At the age of fifteen Dean moved to Michigan. He took a keen interest in politics and in 1958 he became a member of the 26th of July Movement, a group led by Fidel Castro. Dean also formed a chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committe in Chicago.

In 1960 Dean was threatened with being "indicted as an unregistered agent of a foriegn government". As a result Dean agreed to enter Cuba in order to gather information for U.S. Intelligence. Later, when being debriefed by the Central Intellegiance Agency, Dean told them that "the Cuban people would rise against Castro during an invasion by the U.S."

In 1962 Dean joined the John Birch Society. He later discovered that the society hired two gunman, Eladio del Valle and Loran Hall, to kill President John F. Kennedy in Mexico City in June, 1962. Dean claims that in late August, 1963, Harry Gabaldon had a meeting with General Edwin Walker and John Rousselot where talks took place about plans to frame Lee Harvey Oswald. In the book, Alias Oswald, Dean explained why Oswald was not listed in the FBI Security Index: "Oswald wasn't in the Security Index because the FBI officials knew that he was working to preserve security, not hinder it."

 

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Disturbed by these events, in September, 1963, Dean began supplying information on the activities of the John Birch Society to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Dean claimed that "Lee Harvey Oswald was not involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Like myself, he worked for the FBI and the CIA.. Oswald was an undercover agent working for the security services... Oswald was framed by Walker and other conspirators of the Kennedy assassination plot. Walker and two of his Army sharpshooters met regularly to discuss the plans for the actual shooting of Kennedy."

Dean added that the original plan was to kill John F. Kennedy at the Trade Mart. This information was passed on to the FBI. The plan was changed at the last moment and Lee Harvey Oswald, who Edwin Walker, suspected was a spy, was caught by surprise and fled the scene of the crime.

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^^^That's fucked up how Oswald was loyal to his handlers and they still fucked him over. That's just the way they do things??? The ends justify the means???

Funny how Dean supplied info on the JBS to the FBI when the FBI agent he supplied was probably part of the JBS somehow lol

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Harry is convincing.

Take a look & judge for yourself.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4269

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Ok, just started reading it:

The {JBS} infrastructure was an exact miniature of the Church designed to serve as it's political arm in reaching where the Church was forbidden to go by U.S. laws of Church-State separation.


Hmmm, interesting!! Never thought of that before.

Still reading...


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Diabolical!!!

I believe him to be honest with you.

Is that really Harry Dean that made that post or someone else?

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Yes,it was made by Harry who is still an active & contributing member.

There are still powerful ex CIA & FBI members on the forum.

Gerry Patrick Hemming (who is now deceased) & Tosh Plumlee were solid contributors.
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Crowbar, I just read the forum you linked to.

Great read! I find it interesting that it does not matter how many years go by, I still learn new things about the JFK assassination!!!

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I`m still fascinated and scared at the same time.I believe our own Government was behind the assassination.That`s one of the reasons that I`m so interested in it.It`s actually pretty scary if think about it.
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Do you believe that the same families and/or groups that killed Lincoln (aka NWO aka Illuminati) are the same societies that killed JFK?
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I have not read anything about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln to know.Only that he was killed by John Wilkes Booth.

Have you ever read the similarities in the Lincoln & Kennedy assassination?
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For some reason I can`t copy & paste the content,but please give this a look.It`s INCREDIBLE.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/lincoln-kennedy.asp
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I read it and it said FALSE with the big red light though. Here's what I found when I Googled it:


An example of the list is presented here for illustration. Much of the list has been debunked, and some entries are outright falsehoods. Some urban folklorists have postulated that the list provided a way for people to make sense of two tragic events in American history by seeking out patterns.[4] Gardner and others have said that it is relatively easy to find seemingly meaningful patterns relating any two people or events, but that such patterns often do not stand up to rigorous scrutiny.

 

  • Both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives in '46.
  • Both presidents were elected to the presidency in '60.
  • Lincoln defeated incumbent Vice President John C. Breckenridge for the presidency in 1860; Kennedy defeated incumbent Vice President Richard M. Nixon for the presidency in 1960.
  • Both their predecessors left office in their seventies and retired to Pennsylvania. James Buchanan, whom Lincoln succeeded, retired to Lancaster Township; Dwight D. Eisenhower, whom Kennedy succeeded, retired to Gettysburg.
  • Both their Vice Presidents and successors were Southern Democrats named Johnson (Andrew Johnson and Lyndon Johnson) who were born in '08.
  • Both presidents were concerned with the problems of black Americans and made their views strongly known in '63. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 1863. In 1963, Kennedy presented his reports to Congress on Civil Rights, and the same year was the famous March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom.
  • Both presidents were shot in the head.
  • Both presidents were shot on a Friday in the presence of their wives.
  • Both presidents were accompanied by another couple.
  • The male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.
  • Both presidents had a son die during their presidency.
  • Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theatre; Kennedy was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in a Lincoln automobile, made by Ford.
  • Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre; Kennedy had a secretary named Evelyn Lincoln who warned him not to go to Dallas.
  • Both presidents' last names have 7 letters.
  • Both presidents have five syllables in their full name (which counts Kennedy's middle initial).
  • There are 6 letters in each Johnson's first name.
  • Booth ran from a theatre to a warehouse; Oswald ran from a warehouse to a theatre.
  • Both Johnsons were succeeded as President in '69 by Republicans whose mothers were named Hannah.


Some of the items above are true, such as the year in which Lincoln and Kennedy were each elected President, but this is not so unusual given that Presidential elections are held only every four years, and both started their political careers 100 years apart. Other items twist the truth. Some of the items are simply untrue; there is no record to show that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy; Lincoln's secretaries were John Hay and John G. Nicolay.[4] The list also has inspired humorous parody, such as an item that says: "Before being killed, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland, while Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe."


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I tried forever to copy and paste Crowbar lol.

Yes, I noticed it said FALSE and was not sure what that meant as I was busy trying to copy and paste it 

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I wish that I had been updated on the information that`s out there today.I didn`t read the whole page,just gave the website address.Still interesting IMHO.
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Michael or Andy,

Are you guys familiar with the autopsy on JFK? or the size of his wounds as described by medical personnel at Parkland?
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Michael or Andy,

Are you guys familiar with the autopsy on JFK? or the size of his wounds as described by medical personnel at Parkland?



I am somewhat familiar. What's on your mind?

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Michael or Andy,

Are you guys familiar with the autopsy on JFK? or the size of his wounds as described by medical personnel at Parkland?



I am somewhat familiar. What's on your mind?

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Do you think that the throat & head wound were the same size at Parkland & Bethesda? or do you think that any bullets were removed?

* The throat wound after the tracheostomy.

** Also,keep in mind that there is not a single picture or x-ray from the autopsy that match.

*** And that there is a reason that all Naval personnel were threatened with court martial if they talked about the autopsy.
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I definitely think that there were bullets removed!!!!!!!
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I'm not a doctor but I do believe the body was modified and bullets were removed. Evidence was tampered with all across the board!!!
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You guys are definately more informed about the assassination that I had anticipated.

Do you guys know how JFK`s body got to Bethesda? and what condition it was in?

JFK`s body was received in a fucking shipping casket,naked inside of a body bag wrapped in a sheet,with a additional sheet around his head.

Not the ornamental bronze casket that he left Parkland Hospital in.
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>>JFK`s body was received in a fucking shipping casket,naked inside of a body bag wrapped in a sheet,with a additional sheet around his head.

Not the ornamental bronze casket that he left Parkland Hospital in.
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Ha, that makes sense since they were probably trying to be discreet. It amazes me how these guys got away with something like that way back in the 60's.               

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Yes, they could not be discreet marching around in an ornamental bronze casket that stands out like a sore thumb lol
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I came to see the new post with a million views and replies 

I like the way the post breaks down every reason to kill JFK. Surreal!!!!!!!
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